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Oh for a digital F100

The time to buy a new camera is NOT just before a trip of a lifetime.

This is specially true of your first full blown digital camera. A camera such as a D70 or a CP8800 does have a substantial learning curve even for a very experienced photogapher, and needs to be learned at leisure. Digital is great, but not until you are fluent with it. A shooter can get comfortable with any camera, but one wants to be comfortable before the "meter is running". Again, if you feel comfortable with slides, that is the way to go.

I find that I get better results overall shooting negatives for scanning, and were it me in your boots, that is the way I would go. With monitor screen display and digital projectors plummeting in price, I doubt I will ever project an actual slide again. If I had to, I would still shoot negs and have slides made off them. But go with your comfort zone - always.

larry!
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Thanks Dick,

Yes indeed, the F6 looks a brilliant camera, especially in its smaller configuration, without the larger battery pack. However, for film I am more than content with my trusty F100/FM2 combination - I am pretty pleased with the results I have obtained to date.

I would love an F6, but it was really the "digital experience" that I was interested in trying out. Besides, a little pricey for me at this point - it would be great not have to take such mundane factors into account! Perhaps if I earned my living from photography I would find the purchase easier to justify...

A nice thought, though. Thanks again.

Ian

PS Have you an F6 yourself? You seem to be talking from experience - if so, I'm jealous. ;- )
 
Thanks Larry,

I have had a small voice telling me the same thing, ever since I started considering the options. I think the learning curve would be so steep that it would be far better to have more experience of the ins and outs of using a digital system well before travel. That's the voice of reason talking, I guess, but there's also one saying it would be very interesting to give the "new" a go, too.

Interesting to hear your comments on negs. I haven't really shot negatives for a while - I really do love seeing the images up on a large screen, but as you say, digital imaging (be it via camera or scanner) on a large screen is increasingly viable and affordable. Besides, if you want, you can go the whole hog and get a digital projector...

Part of the decision was the issue of saying that for the sake of the cost of the slide film and processing, it would be affordable to get a D70 or CP8800 or the like - and then I wouldn't have to carry the film there and back!! However, it's true that this is probably not the best time to start learning about a new way of thinking and doing.

Sound advice, as ever.

Regards,

Ian
 
In days of terrorism, traveling with film is not an easy matter. Best to fly into a large city and buy the film there and have it processed before leaving.

Hand inspection is supposedly universal, but one depressed shooter returning to the US, asked for hand inspection in Germany, and watched while the attendants sadistically put his film through the X-Ray machine repeatedly, laughing their heads off. Upon processing, he found it was all hopelessly fogged, and he had an editor to face and explain why there would be no photo feature.

They knew that if he protested, he could be arrested - at least temporarily - long enough to miss his flight - and he probably would never come back to sue them. They have all the power now and the traveler is at their mercy. Inspectors can bake flash-RAM cards with X-Rays and do no harm.

I did a shoot in the USA desert southwest, and brought along a battery charger for my AA cells - perhaps the most common brand in North America. The inspector had never heard of a battery charger and wiped it for explosive residue, and well as my shoes and cameras. Therein lies the problem - wages are low and not the swiftest people get the jobs. For the first time in their lives, they have nearly unlimited power. Travel just is not much fun anymore.

http://www.larry-bolch.com/desert2002/

I have made some presentations to large groups, and even with consumer-level digital projectors, the slides-shows looked most impressive. With the rich variety of presentation software, one can add music tracks, tag individual slides with sound effects and so on. I mixed scans and original digital shots in one, and it was seamless. This was a few years back at a new media conference, and people were quite vocal about it not being obvious which was which. One said that the only give-away was the vintage of the cars or hair and clothing style.

From now on, I plan to travel with whatever digital camera I am using at the time - currently the Nikon CP8400 - and at least one medium format camera. My Plaubel Makina 67 is very compact, shoots a 6x7 image and has a superb 80mm f-2.8 Nikon lens. It is decent for street, but great for epic landscapes and the like. I probably will never shoot much 35mm again, since there is little or no advantage for me over the CP8400. I will use up my refrigerated supply with my WideLuxe 140° panoramic.

larry!
http://www.larry-bolch.com/
ICQ 76620504
 
Hi Ian,

Do you really use MLU?

I think that what I would do if I had to go to Africa today, I would take my N8008 (The F100 is one of the few Nikons that I have never owned) and my D70. I would also take my solar charger for AAs and for the D70 Lithium Ion batteries. I made my own interface to the D70 charger. I would take 2 or 3 D70 batteries, at least 3 sets of Ni-MH batteries for the 8008 and at least 40 throw away AAs.

From my experience with shooting wildlife, I suspect that my widest lens would be on the film camera and never be taken off while most of the shooting would be done with the D70.

Ron
 
By the way, Ian, I have never had a problem mixing film and digital with the same bag of lenses. The digital is like using a 1.4x teleconverter without loosing an F-stop or the image quality degradation and I just don't put my one DX lens on a film body.

It's practically second nature for me to put (for ex&le) a 135mm on a digital camera while 200mm is on the film camera for the same field of view. My 135 is one stop faster than my 200 so I get the same depth of field isolation with either lens. My 300mm is one stop faster than my 300 so the same thing happens with those lenses too.

Ron
 
Ian:

$1500 for MLU>

I have used the F100’s self-time with a Zeiss 85mm Spotting Scope (f12 1000 mm eq.) and I was happy with the results, although they were daylight shots. Just when and how many times would you need MLU in Africa? All I know is the F100 has been used all over the world under adverse conditions and has done the job.

I would not want to take a new and untested camera, without and known backup with me on an expensive trip.

Regards:

Gilbert
 
Hi Ron,

Yes, I have used the MLU feature on both the FM2 and the F4. In days gone past I did actually try some shots with MLU used and not used, and definitely did see a benefit with a loupe. I am sorry, but if I could remember where I had stored this shots, I would share them! However, I have read of many who feel that the mirror d&ing in the F100 is absolutely fine, and on certain tripod rigs any significant vibration is largely eliminated. I guess I am not that much of a purist, or I would definitely go and get an F6 (would need to sell the car first) For my more recent efforts, I have been more than content to use the F100. While I guess it is in the "wish list", AA batteries and an aperture ring on the lens would be my priorities.

I used MLU mainly for landscape shots with a tele zoom (in the past), as I tend to keep my eye on the wildlife while shooting - I prefer this to blazing away with the motor drive, and hoping I will get the right shot. This may not be the best way to ensure the capture of a great shot, but I generally have been conservative in film terms (for individual shots, if not overall while away). I realise there is just as strong a case for using MLU on animal shots, but since I have really only had the opportunity for any tele animal shots since I bought my 80-400 VR lens, I have chosen my F100 to use the VR function.

Your N8008 is, I believe, the equivalent of my fantastic F-801. As I mentioned a while ago, I sold this to a good friend, and he passed it on to his brother, who is serving with the British Army in Iraq. It has been all over the world several times, and the outside looks bruised and battered, but it STILL functions well. As many have stated, it is the person and not the camera that takes the photos, but the ruggedness of even this so-called "consumer" Nikon is simply incredible. Certainly a good choice.

Although I have used a solar charger with the AA batteries for the F100, this is a particular kit for such batteries with an incorporated solar panel. I will admit to not being too able on the electronics front, but am interested to learn that you can make a set-up to charge the D70 batteries with solar power. I take it you connected your panels to the D70 battery charger directly. A few have posted here that the D70 batteries last for any number of photos I could possibly shoot, and so I guess this may not be such a big feature after all. However, it is hard to break the habit, and I can't see why Pentax and Fuji can happily power their cameras with AAs and Nikon's digital range require special batteries and chargers.

You obviously have experience using your D70 for wildlife, and I expect from what you have posted that you found this more than adequate. It would be interesting to think that, even if it's better to learn about the ins and outs of digital before heading away, the 80-400 lens could stay on the D70, and so remove the dust-on-the-sensor problem mentioned earlier, while maybe the 20 could stay on the Fm2 - and I leave the F100 and its kit behind to save on weight and bulk. I could still take film shots with the FM2 (I would have to rely on my eyes, instead of an AF-sensor to get things right!) if the digital system was proving too steep a learning curve.

I gather that the D70 and the CP8800 can simultaneously shoot NEF and JPEG files - is that right? If so, I imagine I could take a few shots while practising, and yet still have the image information stored as a RAW file to allow better post-shooting digital image manipulation - from my reading of the situation, anyway. However, I guess I agree with Larry that this is not the ideal time to be experimenting...

Regards,

Ian
 
Pardon my seeming nitpicking but ... Ian: You said, "Yes, I have used the MLU feature on both the FM2..."

I'm not sure how you could use MLU on an FM2 as they don't possess this feature. I own an FM2 for about 20 yrs and it has no such capability. I've looked at the websites and there never has been this feature on FM2 (or FM2N).
 
Hi Russell,

Yes, I guess strictly speaking, you are correct. However, if you use the self-timer on the FM2, the mirror is swung up out of the way prior to the release of the shutter. Therefore there is sufficient time for any vibrations from the mirror movement to have settled down. You aren't able to lock-up the mirror as you might with one of the Nikon "F"'s, but for all intents and purposes, this system has the same effect, and is useful for static images.

I believe on some Canon and Olympus models, this is known as "mirror pre-fire", rather than "mirror lock-up", and perhaps I should have used this term instead.

Thanks for the comment,

Regards,

Ian
 
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