Canon 20D Severe Issues

[honda]

Hi, Gunnar, I suppose you used a tripod for both shots?Did you focus manualy-?-or auto--
The nikon appears to sharper -If they where both focused manualy--Then I think its sharper be cause it`s a better lens.
PS did you use any sharpening in photoshop-or in camera/ if so did they both have the same amount-?
I think I would take some more shots with the canon of a subject that has more depth and take some on auto focus and some on manual.
It`s difficult to compare shots from two different camera`s because of the different processing -in camera and in software.
in any case you have to supply some sharpening to a digital image any way.
I hope thi may help you--
Regards Dorg(Gordon)

 

[j_cabbot]

Hi Gunnar;
.......I attempted to view the 20D shots in my Canon EOS Viewer Utility (EVU)& it would not display - how you are sending it, or compressing or whatever, the EVU is not reading it - its best to send all the detailed info for the shot, if you don't we cannot actually know what is going on? Do you have a PBase account where you can post a full resolution untouched??? I don't know -maybe 'this' site's server blocks that info or something ??? Johnathan

 

[gunnargb]

They are JPG that the EOS Viewer cannot display

 

[lmckines2]

I've just recently purchased a 20D and for some reason my indoor shots come out with "warmer" than they should. I'm not an expert yet at working with the settings but even under AWB the skin tones are reddish. Is this a glitch specific to my camera or is it operator error?

 

[mathijs]

Leonard are they reddish in print or on screen?
For a good on screen view you have to calibrate your monitor.

 

[agp]

>[ Interested in these postings. I am concerned about overexposure in automatic modes. It is well known that if the highlights are blown it is impossible to retrieve them. I have had a D30, 10D, now have a 20D, and use a 300D from the shcool I teach in. On these cameras I always set about 1 stop underexposure and get good results. Others who use the camera (pupils and teachersd) think that, for ex&le, 'Sports mode' gives the best settings. result - overexposed images.

I have written to Canon about this, as I think that there should be a firmware upgrade - it is a fult with the cameras. All I got back was a reply saying that the cameras were set up correctly, send them to a service centre for checking! 4 cameras with the same problem? It seems to me thast there should be some exposure compensation facility for the automatic modes, or that they should be set to give less exposure. It seems to me that they are set for correct exposure for FILM. Incidentally, with non-auto modes and the exposure comensation the results are fantastic. >]

 

[fotografz]

Leonard, Indoor shot reddish? Tungsten light is very warm/red. If the light is low wattage it will be a color temp well below the auto settings range and require custom white balance. Or just shoot RAW files in light like that and adjust white balance in the RAW converter with one click of the eye dropper.

Andrew, consistent overexposure in all those cameras leads one to believe it is either user error with metering, or an incredibly unlucky string of purchases. I've the opposite results and consistently slightly underexpose (D30, D10, 20D as well as 1Ds, 1DsMKII, 1DMKII.) But I do it deliberately. The ideal is to learn how to meter so you produce a histogram with the highlight toe as far right as possible without clipping it. If you have medium to darkish scenes, the camera meter will attempt to push the scene to an average gray and the highlights will be overexposed every time. Try this: when outdoors meter the grass and lock that setting in then recompose and shoot.

 

[agp]

Sorry to reply so quickly in disagreement. I have been taking photos since 1957, and was a professional photographer for several years. I was talking about the automatic modes. They are meant for the novice, and novices are not going to be manipulating a histogram, even if it were possible in auto modes. I am aware that it averages tones to an 18% grey (not quite as simple these days, of course!). I am talking about the novice modes. I get fantastic results in aperture-priority.

 

[fotografz]

No disrespect meant Andrew. I have no way of knowing your level of expertise.

However, I just walked around the house inside and out with the 20D, and set it to every novice auto setting available. I included bright light sources, dark sources and everything in between, and could not get the camera to overexpose.

I wonder why there's such a difference in experiences with the D series cameras?

 

[griffin]

Wow. That's a nicely done picture of a pleasant-looking home. Everything depends on the intensity of the light and the native settings of the camera vs the parameters available. I, too, routinely adjust my 20D to underexpose to avoid washed-out highlights. But I left the parameters as they were set by Canon, so I'm lazy in that regard. You can change them in custom settings. The manual outlines what they are.

On the matter of red tones indoors, even awb doesn't do a perfect job of handling tungsten lighting. One has to adjust white balance. Once again, I refer to the manual. Also I note that the higher the ISO setting the more red is recorded. I usually fix this in Photoshop CS. Under adjustments there is a photo filter tool that has a couple of blue filters that nicely adjust the color of shots in a dark cafe where only tungsten lighting is available.